Lucid Absinthe


Lucid AbsintheRecently, Lucid Absinthe has started selling legally within the US.

Anybody who has hung around cocktails and spirits for very long has run into the topic of Absinthe, the Green Fairy.  Absinthe was banned in Switzerland, the country of its origin, in 1907. It was banned in the US, a country where it was in fact rarely used, in 1912, and in France, where its popularity had skyrocketed, in 1915. The ban was based on herculean efforts by the temperance movement, which sought to ban all alcohols around the world, as well as by fairly dramatic propaganda which essentially attributed all of the world’s sins to this popular elixir. At the heart of the anti-absinthe propaganda was the claim that there was a substance in absinthe which caused hallucinations, delirium, and even death. The scapegoat of these effects was identified as thujone. Thujone is a compound that is found in various herbs such as tarragon, thyme, rosemary, sage, juniper, and wormwood.

The theory of the day, and a theory that has survived to modern day, was that if wormwood contained thujone, and if wormwood was an ingredient in absinthe, then absinthe contained thujone. Any scientific tests done to identify the effects of absinthe, did not actually use absinthe, but instead used pure thujone instead. Absinthe is made by macerating the various herbs in a base alcohol, and then distilling this into the final product. Distillation is essentially the process of heating the initial product high enough to cause the alcohol in it to turn into a vapor, which is captured and then condensed back into a liquid. Unbeknownst to the various scientists who were embroiled in the absinthe/thujone issue, thujone doesn’t easily cross over within the alcohol vapors during distillation. As distilled, absinthe is clear, but traditionally bottled absinthe is usually green in color. This coloring comes from a brief dipping of petite wormwood, hyssop, and some other herbs which give off a little bit of flavoring, as well as some of their chlorophyll, which produces the green coloration. A little bit of thujone is imparted during this process, but not significantly measureable amounts. Thus real absinthe has very little thujone.

The revival of absinthe started in the 1990s when it was discovered that the UK never really banned absinthe, and so some importers began selling absinthe which they brought in from the Czech Republic. Since then, various changes in the legal availability of absinthe have occurred; perhaps most notably is the formation of the European Union, which has brought about a homogenization of the various laws which were on the books of the various individual countries of this new-found union. The results of this were that absinthe, with a level of thujone below 10mg/liter was considered as safe for sale. While to the best of my knowledge, this has not yet become an officially sanctioned part of US law, it has apparently become a benchmark which is used to determine if a product is safe to bring to market. Part of this is passed off as seeing up to 10mg/liter as being an acceptable “margin of error” in the detection process.

Ted Breaux has been producing a line of absinthe for the last couple of years under the “Jade” brand. These are perhaps some of the best commercially available absinthes, made with classic methodology, and even made using the same stills which Pernod had once used to make their original absinthe in. He recently applied his knowledge and skill as a respected absinthe producer, and created a product to be sold by Viridian Spirits as the first “true absinthe” legally available in the US since the original ban. Part of the process was to carefully control the distillation process to make sure that the thujone level would stay below the 10mg/liter limit. He also modified the recipe slightly in an attempt to take the American palate into consideration. Anise is not quite as common of a flavoring here in the US as it is in Europe, and so he softened the flavors ever-so-slightly in order to produce a product which would be more approachable, and thus hopefully more commercially successful, here in America.

Some of the absinthe aficionados have voiced concern that Lucid will be a bastardized absinthe, and is simply playing off of the increasing hype and mythology that surrounds absinthe overall. Their choice of a slightly “sensationalist” bottle design with enigmatic green eyes peering out didn’t help matters any. I recently had a chance to sample Lucid, and can report that it is an excellent product for the most part. Its overall flavor profile is a little softer, and slightly less complex then I have come to expect in a true absinthe, but it is well within the scope of what should be expected of an absinthe overall.

A key aspect of Lucid, is that it has now paved the way for other manufacturers to produce absinthe which would be legal to sell in the US, and by focusing on the lower thujone levels, it will hopefully prevent many of the vile-tasting faux-sinthes which are being marketed on the internet as being part of this experience.

As was stated earlier, absinthe never was as popular in America as it was in Europe. Bars here would use it measured mostly in mere dashes to add a little extra flavor to various cocktails, as you might find in something like a Sazerac, perhaps one of the more popular American cocktails to use absinthe.

Another interesting pre-prohibition, pre-ban American cocktail which relied on absinthe was the Sherman. When I first tasted this cocktail, something in the back of my mind said “root beer”, and while I wouldn’t say it tasted exactly like root beer, I think you might agree with me that it does have a flavor profile which bears some resemblance.

Sherman
(Slightly modified from the recipe listed in The Old Waldorf-Astoria Bar Book)

  • 2 ounces sweet vermouth
  • 1 ounce rye or bourbon whiskey
  • 3 dashes absinthe
  • 1 dash Angostura bitters
  • 1 dash orange bitters

Stir with ice, strain into a cocktail glass.
Garnish with a lemon twist.



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Ironically the same disharmonization with the EU that has kept absinthe out may provide a way for quality absinthe to gain a foothold. Naturally colored products wont run into artificial coloring regulations as the FDA bans a number of colors used in most artificially colored absinth.

Good add Ari…

And for others reading his comment, notice the selective use of “absinthe” and “absinth”. That wasn’t a typo :->

Robert, that was extremely well written and dare I say balanced! Your piece should be a primary link to any talk about absinthe in the States to or among newbies. The only other thing I’d add (also to newcomers) is that absinthe was/is like rum in that different well-made brands tasted/taste substantially different from one another with different flavor profiles and complexity levels. Lucid strikes me as “real” absinthe, but given the new lay of the land, there remains room for so much more!
–Doc.

Last night (with some absinthe-aficionado friends), we tasted the Lucid side by side with two authentic French absinthes last night. The Lucid held its own, although I agree that it’s much less complex than the other two we tried.

There is so much misinformation about Absinthe, and so many really bad faux-sinths which leverage that to allow them to sell something that is barely drinkable, for far too much money, that I am extremely happy to see the first product to be able to be legally sold be something that actually tastes right.

“Absente” was a product that came out a few years back trying to hit this market. And while basically a good product in its own right, I don’t think it could be considered the “diet cola” of Absinthes.

Thanks for writing this article, its interesting seeing this unfold, history in the making.

I have one comment about the coloration stage you mention, though. I believe most of the green comes from mint and not hyssop or wormwood.

Excellent article, Robert!

As for comparing Lucid with “authentic” absinthes, I’d have to say that there is no reason not to consider Lucid to be an authentic absinthe, it fits the profile very well. While it is somewhat less complex and flavorful than the Jade line, there is clearly a family resemblance. I think toning it down a bit was probably a logical decision given the American resistance to the more challenging tastes and flavors.

axissixa, the traditional herbs for coloring absinthe are hyssop, melissa (lemon balm) and petite wormwood, Artemisia pontica, a non-bitter species of wormwood.

While there are many herbs commonly called “wormwood”, only Grand Wormwood, Artemisia absinthium, is the definitive botanical for absinthe and it should never be used in coloring as it is extremely bitter. The “coloring” herbs are actually used to impart additional flavor and aroma, the beautiful green is merely a fortunate result of this.

Cheers!

Axissixa…

My sources show that there are three ingredients which commonly contribute to the green coloring in absinthe, Hyssop, Roman Wormwood, and Melissa. Melissa is also known as “Lemon Balm” because of its lemony scent and flavor, and it is a member of the overall mint family, although it is not “minty” in flavor.

So I guess by that standpoint you could say that “mint” is one of the coloring agents, but it would be better to say Melissa, since “mint” often envokes images of spearmint and peppermint.

make your own
www.absinthkits.com

I found a very interesting site about absinthe,related to the other aspects of this mysterious drink.I was curious about the asthetic aspects of absinthe.I realize you have to be born with talent 1st and foremost,but this site talks about Wilde,Van gough,poe ect. www.oxygenee.com/absinthe-faq/faq4.html

Cary, the connective pathways between absinthe and artistic proclivity is essentially a one-way street. Absinthe of the day was relatively inexpensive (especially when compared to French wines, which were in high demand and low production due to the phylloxera blight), and perhaps along with the somewhat facinating ritual associated with absinthe consumption made it a favorite amongst the artistic community which was a relatively low-income albiet highly creative section of society.

“And for others reading his comment, notice the selective use of “absinthe” and “absinth”. That wasn’t a typo :->”

Not a typo? A mark of ignorance perhaps? Absinth is the German spelling.

I suppose that you (he) are American and wouldn’t know that? Lucis absinthe has no thujon (not a typo) and that’s a fact.

“make your own www.absinthspam.com”

That stuff won’t make absinthe. And it tastes awful; I’ve tasted it.
How many people would take a “make your own” Single Malt Whisky kit seriously? How about adding malt syrup to carbonated water to make your own beer?

“Not a typo? A mark of ignorance perhaps? Absinth is the German spelling.”

I’m not sure I see your point. The countries known for using that spelling on the product are also known for using several coloring additives that aren’t permitted in the US, and I’m pretty sure that was Ari’s point in differentiating.

“Lucis absinthe has no thujon (not a typo) and that’s a fact.”

Your confidence in this alleged “fact” is not well-founded. Unless you were present at its making and saw it analyzed afterward, you’re not in a postion to state anything as a fact.

Lucid almost certainly has thujone in it; not that it’s important. It simply comes under the 10ppm margin that the gov requires in order to be considered “thujone free.”

We been over this again and again: thujone is of no importance to either the authenticity or quality of an absinthe. Pre-ban absinthes did not contain significantly more thujone than modern ones and in some cases, much less.

So long as it has the flavor and other characteristics generally associated with absinthe (such as a prominent anise flavor) and it contains sufficient quantity of Artemisia absinthium wormwood to lend its flavor and aroma, and Lucid does, then it’s absinthe.

Many of the aforementioned artificially colored and flavored vodkas are not absinth(e) of any kind.

Hiram: Just a nitpick - if the article is correct that the standard is 10 mg/liter,
then that works out to 10 mg/1000 ml, or 10,000 ppm (on a mass to volume basis).

To do a true ppm calculation, you’d want to compare similar units, so on a by volume basis, 10 mg of thujone works out to 0.108 ml (using a density of 0.92 g/ml). Even with 0.108 ml/1000 ml, that’s approximately 100 ppm, as opposed to the 10 ppm you mention . . .

i live in terre haute, indiana and received my bottle of Lucid absinthe from New York a few hours ago. it truly is a great liqour, but im not convinced of any trippy effects…yet. it has made me a bit sleepy, though. i have only had 4 drinks of it so far, so the night is young. ill report later. very quality stuff and i would justify the $60 if you are looking for something to do on a night off like myself.

Alex… Alex… Alex…

If you are looking for “trippy” effects from Absinthe (Lucid or otherwise), then I guess you didn’t read my previous absinthe article (http://thespiritworld.net/2007/01/15/absinthe/).

:->

Ernie,
10mg/L is 10 ppm, not 10,000. 10,000 ppm would be 10,000 mg/L, and is actually 1%. For example, if the absinthe is 50% alcohol, it is 50,000 ppm, or 50,000 mg/L of ethanol per liter of solution.

Easy way to think about it is that water weighs approximately 1 mg per ml. So there can only be 1,000,000 mg in 1,000,000 ml…pure water would be 1 million parts per million, eh? Even in terms of mass/volume as you are saying. Hope that makes sense.

I do agree that thujone is not what makes the absinthe, though I believe it is the reason the drink has had a resurgence of late. The American thujone limit is, in some cases, an order of magnitude less than some varieties available in Europe. The Czech absinthes have apparently skipped the distillation process and thus are able to retain much of the thujone content, though this comes at the price of detritus at the end of the bottle (and your wallet $~250 lighter).

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Thanks much for the excellent write-up. Googled and spotted you when saw write-up on Lucid in local paper. That it’s Breaux’s gives hope, but now torn between ease of access vs. the valued complexities and depth of a “1901″ or “Edouard”. Hmm. (Agreeing with Dr. Cocktail this is a key reference article.)

Thank you for the Sherman recipe. Truly had never tasted anything quite like that. Very interesting almust numbing effect of my tongue when left to sit in my mouth.

Water weighs 1 gm./ml. not 1 mg. There are 1000 ml. of water (or whatever) in 1 l. In weight terms, 1 l. of water weighs 1 kg., so 1 mg./l translates (for water, which has the aforementioned density of 1 gm./ml.) to 1 mg./kg. or 1 ppm as it takes 1000 mg. to equal 1 gm.

Wormwood meaning “wood containing worms”. Don’t think you’re gonna get anything but drunk from this. Weak.

@22 I don’t think I get the joke. Unless you think that’s what wormwood is? Just an herb actually– looks sort of like worms coming out of the ground, plus it’s good for getting the, uh, worms out.
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=ARAB3
Folks fixate on thujone as a “drug” but it’s a combo effect; don’t underrate the anise, fennel, and other herbs. More here:
http://www.thujone.info

I believe I read somewhere that during the study of older French absinthes - in an effort to determine their levels of wormwood/thujone - that the breakdown of the chemical over time was not taken into consideration. ie: you wouldn’t be able to get a true reading of the thujone level since it breaks down over the years, rendering the study rather useless, if this is true.

This seems like a play to ask a question about the absinthe found on the internet. As of right now Lucid is not sold in the state of Oregon where I life. I have had my local store order a case and am awaiting my bottle of Lucid to arrive on Thursday. I am wondering what your comments are on some brands like Zele and King of the Spirits Gold?

To my knowledge, there are only two absinthes in existence that contain anywhere near pre-ban levels of thujone (100+ mg): King of Spirits Gold and Century Absinthe. Neither of the two, nor any other genuine absinthe, will make it to the States anytime soon. For the real deal, you have to travel to Europe or have it shipped over. Yes, possession and importation for personal use is legal. You can see King of Spirits Gold here: www.OriginalAbsinthe.com/absinthe-king-gold-p-56.html

Ryan, Regarding Zele and King of Spirits Gold… technically, neither of them could/should be called “Absinthe”, since they aren’t made in the traditional fashion. They are what are known as “Faux-sinthe”, and frankly taste terrible. I personally have never had Zele, but I have tasted King of Spirits, and it tastes absolutely nothing like true Absinthe, and is virtually undrinkable in my mind.

Any “absinthe” that you see which plays up a “high thujone” content should be avoided at all costs.

-Robert

Michael, I think you might have some of your facts about thujone levels a little confused. :->

Properly made pre-ban Absinthe did not have high thujone levels.

There “was” a scientific report done post-ban which “calculated” the thujone levels of pre-ban absinthe, but it did not do this by actually measuring the thujone levels. Instead it simply looked at all of the ingredients going into it and then added up all of the thujone in those ingredients.

It however did not take distillation into account. Thujone doesn’t cross over in the alcohol vapors well, and so true absinthe will have fairly low thujone levels.

Those “so called” Absinthes which do have high thujone levels do so by not being made properly. They (usually) don’t distill their product, instead they simply soak the herbs and botonicals in alcohol then strain it, or worse yet they simply add essential oils to alcohol as “flavorings”. The result is an absinthe which tastes nothing like real absinthe should.

I know distillers who are making absinthe using exact pre-ban recipes, and their absinthes have low enough thujone levels to most likely make it into the US.

As I mentioned in my previous comment, any absinthe which promotes high thujone levels is not a true absinthe and is most likely undrinkable, except by those poor souls who put up with the taste “thinking” they are drinking an illicit beverage that is supposed to get them high.

-Robert

soon i too will embark into the world of absinthe,few brothas know of its allure and soon i shall bring the green fairy to como,[west side ft worth.]or mabe ill just save it for the ladies,,,yea ,,thats what ill do.

Lucid is horrible! It tastes like a big mouthful of those seeds they serve at the end of meals in Indian restaurants. It is grotesquely “weedy and seedy”. I believe this is part of Ted Breaux’s big lie strategy to introduce a phony imitation of absinthe and make huge bucks off of it. I have tried arguing with him on his own web site but he never responds. The overwhelming primary constituent of essence of wormwood is thujone. If you distill it at too low a temperature to allow thujone to cross, virtually nothing of the wormwood is obtained. You also fail to get other vital constituents of the other herbs. This is the real reason i suspect Lucid tastes so wretchedly. It is far from being real absinthe, it is basically a nasty tasting pastis which was inadequately distilled to give it a decent flavor. Nothing, not even Absente tastes as bad as Lucid and if you know how rank Absente is, that is saying a lot. Absinthe was originally developed for medicinal use as a drinkable form of woemwood, based on the discovery that the excruciatingly bitter components of wormwood don’t distill. It is supposed to have a high thujone content as that is the main distillable ingredient of wormwood. 200 to 300 ppm is not too high a thujone content and quite safe and tasty. If you have ever drunk sage tea for a cold, you have imbibed a significant quantity of thujone, as it is the primary constituent of sage essence as well.

To feel a real absinthe effect from drinking Lucid or Absente. first simmer two tablespoons of sage in a pint of water for ten minutes and drink the tea before you try the booze. It will preload your system with enough thujone that you will get some authentic absinthe effect.

Better still, obtain genuine steam-distilled oil of wormwood (Artemesia absinthum and no other species!) from a reliable internet source. It should be dark green, runny and have a powerful but wonderfully rich woodsy odor. Then buy a bottle of pastis. Recommended brands are Pernod, Henri Bardouin and Herbsaint. For a fifth of pastis, put 5 drops of oil of wormwood in a tablespoon of EverClear and pour it in and mix well. If you can’t get EverClear, try 151 proof rum. In emergencies, you can add the oil directly but be prepared for a LOT of shaking to get it to dissolve. Forget the silly sugar cube! Pastis is basically absinthe without the wormwood and by putting in the essence of the wormwood, you have transmogrified it back into absinthe. GENUINE absinthe, like they drank in the outdoor cafes of Montemart in the 1890’s, not like Breaux’s wretched phony crap. Prepare to be amazed at the effects of the real thing! My favorite way of serving real absinthe is to pour it over ice in a glass then fill it up with soda water.
Delectable!

JerryBear

P.S.
Do not be tempted to increase the oil content beyond 5 drops using a standard sized medicine dropper! Oil of wormwood (like most essential oils) is highly toxic in large quantities. A gram of oil of wormwood (about 20 drops) represents the threshold of toxicity and 5 grams (about 120 drops or a teaspoon) is the threshold of lethality. This is a typical toxicity for an essential oil, essence of parsley, for example has a comparable toxicity. I remember reading about some idiot who drank two teaspoons of pure oil of wormwood and promptly went into convulsions and would have quickly died if he hadn’t been rushed to the emergency room. Don’t be tempted to be an idiot yourself!

Perhaps you would like to know a little of the theory behind absinthe. Thujone was never the primary intoxicating ingredient. but was essential for the overall effect. The three essential ingredients of true absinthe are alcohol (the primary source of intoxication), anethole (from anise—amplifies the inebriating effects of alcohol) and thujone (from wormwood, acts as a partial antagonist to alcohol). Alcohol acts by increasing the sensitivity and enhancing the response of GABA sensitive neurons in the central nervous system to the neurohormone GABA. Other drugs that affect this system are barbiturates, methaqualone and the many relatives of Valium (benzodiazapenes). Most prescription sleeping pills and tranquilizers interact with this system. The inebriating effects of alcohol all derive from its effects on GABA sensitive neurons. Anethole also interacts with the GABA system though fairly weakly. It does substantially enhance the inebriating effects of alcohol which is why anise flavored alcoh0olic beverages are so popular in certain parts of the world. Thujone, on the other hand, is antagonistic to GABA sensitive neurons. The GABA system is the primary “downer” system in the nervous system, and if it is too severely inhibited, it results in intense unbalanced stimulation with resultant convulsions, this the toxicity in excessive doses. Some well known insecticides work by this mechanism, and wormwood has a good reputation as an effective insecticide. It also works against worms, thus the name.

In the tiny amount present in absinthe, thujone causes only minimal GABA inhibition. But this is sufficient to counteract the cruder physical effects of the alcohol while leaving untouched the higher intoxicating effect which in turn is enhanced by the anethole. Interestingly, anethole will block toxicity from thujone, at least in animal experiiments. As a result, I have found that the essential ingredients in absinthe, in order of importance, are alcohol (the primary intoxicant), anethole (there is no good absinthe effect without a lot of this), and last thujone (to counteract unwanted effects from the preceding two). I suspect too m,uch thujone will inhibit the overall effect if you overdo it, aside from questions of toxicity. The result is a sublime intoxication with a sense of soaring and elation (thanks to anethole) and a marvelous sense of luminous clarity and lucidity (thanks to thujone’s ability to counteract the fuzzy-headedness of the alcohol).

Real absinthe is generally quite safe as long as you drink only it. I and my friends have enjoyed high-thujone absinthe for a number of years with only positive effects, one of the best being the rarity of hangovers!. Where they got into trouble in the old days was when they discovered that you could drink far more alcohol without passing out after you had drunk absinthe thanks to the anti-toxic effects of thujone. They would drink progidous amounts of booze, go crazy and do unfortunate things like cut off ears. By the way, never give absinthe to somebody already drunk. It will amplify the effects of the alcohol already in their bloodstream with unpredictable results.

Cheers!

JerryBear

Andrew says:
“I believe I read somewhere that during the study of older French absinthes - in an effort to determine their levels of wormwood/thujone - that the breakdown of the chemical over time was not taken into consideration.”

It was taken into consideration in a recently published study that demonstrated the thujone molecule to be highly resistant to oxidative stresses. That coupled with the fact that properly distilled test samples yield thujone concentrations typical of that exhibited in the old bottles negates the argument that thujone has degraded significantly over time.

Michael says:
“To my knowledge, there are only two absinthes in existence that contain anywhere near pre-ban levels of thujone (100+ mg): King of Spirits Gold and Century Absinthe.”

The notion that pre-ban absinthes contained high concentration of thujone is promoted only by those who have never possessed nor analyzed actual samples of pre-ban absinthe. Furthermore, products that make claims of ‘high thujone’ are almost always of inferior quality, improper manufacture, and are adulterated by foreign additives that have no place in proper absinthe crafting. As far as KOSG and Zelena Musa, these two products have to be the two worst excuses for absinthe ever created.

JerryBear says:
“I have tried arguing with him (Ted Breaux) on his own web site but he never responds.”

After reading your extended rant, I can’t blame him for not wasting his time. Your belief system is obviously so heavily contaminated with false and misguided rubbish, that I found it difficult to take any of it seriously. Unfortunately, you’re so far off in left field that I suspect the truth will forever escape you.

JerryBear, you appear to have fallen for a modern misunderstanding of what absinthe really is and have repeated pretty much the same outdated information that’s been promoted on stoner sites for years. Absinthe is not, and was not, psychotropic drug.

Also, it’s absolutely irresponsible to suggest that someone ingest pure wormwood oil, which is extremely poisonous. Even with a warning, it’s pointless and dangerous.

Absinthe was, and is, an anise and wormwood flavored aperitif, not a hardcore party shot to get you messed up. Millions of ordinary people all over France were drinking this stuff every afternoon.

I have drunk several pre-ban absinthes and I can assure you that your interpretation is greatly exaggerated. Modern absinthes contain comparable levels of thujone to pre-ban absinthe, which has been repeatedly analyzed, and it’s nowhere near 200 - 300 mg/l.

“If you distill it at too low a temperature to allow thujone to cross, virtually nothing of the wormwood is obtained.”

This is incorrect. The wonderful aromatic alpine nature of the wormwood is the first thing that distills over, followed by the other herbs and then the anethole from the anise and fennel.

The thujone doesn’t distill readily and is left behind in the pot. This too has been demonstrated by modern chemical analysis.

Accurate, modern absinthe information is no longer as obscure and hard to find as it used to be. Please read the science section, and this article in particular, at The Wormwood Society for a better understanding of how these myths got started and are perpetuated by marketers of fake absinthe who make millions off of thujone seekers.

JerryBear’s comments are, despite their faux-scientific language, uninformed, misleading and filled with outright nonsense. More importantly, to suggest on a public site that anyone add pure wormwood oil to a drink is wildly irresponsible - not only is the threshold of lethality very low, but medically catastrophic symptoms can occur even below this level.

For more on thujone in general, see http://www.thujone.info. For a paper from an early edition of The Lancet describing a fatal case of sage oil poisoning (a good proxy for wormwood oil), see here: http://www.thujone.info/thujone-absinthe-38.html.

For an evidence-based overview of the purported “secondary effects” of absinthe, see this page at the Virtual Absinthe Museum:
http://www.oxygenee.com/absinthe-effect/secondaries.html

so what is this drink i here you can die from it if your drank it regularly?….is that true?….

how bad is it?

Things are getting a tad out of control here, as Karmisha’s obvious confused curiosity demonstrates.

The “mystery” behind Absinthe since its ban has brought about many levels of misinformation. Fueled in part by the wide variety of products going by the name “Absinthe”.

Properly made Absinthe is no more dangerous than a navy strength gin, and has as much of an effect on you as a glass of Chartreuse. The problem is that there are many products out there going by the name Absinthe, which bear about as much similarity to real Absinthe as “The National Enquirer” does to real news.

Several of the posts here have added to the confusion by presenting inaccurate, if not downright misleading, information. Thankfully Vapeur, Gwydion, Oxygenee and others have stepped in and provided wonderful insights to counter the unfortunate propaganda being presented by others.

Karmisha,
- Properly made Absinthe is not dangerous.
- Properly made Absinthe is delicious (if you like the licorice-ish flavor of anise).
- Products which promote their high-thujone levels are not Absinthe and usually taste terrible.
- Trying to “make your own” Absinthe is ill-advised, and has been known to be dangerous.

JerryBear= Dr. Ordinaire and that’s the facts jack!

Actually , documentation has shown that the average pre-ban, traditional absinthe contained 250mg/l of thujone . These high levels of thujone are said to be reasons of the whole “green fairy” hallucination effect. Modern makers of “absinthe” claim that hallucinations are a myth. RIDICULOUS!!! I say go try a bottle of century absinthe 100mg/l (highest you will find)… then tell me that hallucinations and “good feelings” are a myth. don’t buy absinthe from makers that claim absinthe is just a well tasting alcoholic beverage.

high level alcohol + low level wormwood & thujone = a suckers absinthe !!!!

This is the best thing ever made i have never had naything like it it is unbelievable. thats the truth

JerryBear, I concur that Lucid is quite wretched. It made me do that little head twitch that occurs when I take a tequila shot, only worse. I felt nauseated. Following the instructions on the bottle didn’t improve it much. I even went so far as to raid my fridge for things with which to mix. Sprite Zero…nope. Sprite Zero and OJ…almost palatable. I am highly disappointed and would love to try some real absinthe someday.

Pandora…

I’d be curious to know what you think a “good” absinthe is, or probably more importantly how you actually drink your abinsthe.

Lucid is most definately not the “best” absinthe out there, but it is fairly gentle and relaxed, and provides a good introduction.

I’ve had perhaps a hundred different absinthes, including such terrible brands as Hills, and King Of Spirits, and of course a few “pre-ban” samples which really help to provide a good example of what a real absinthe should taste like.

Lucid is on the upper end of things. Not as good as the “Jade” line, which it is a sibling of, but far better than most of the other products out there.

-Robert

Until the last two years I have had next to no absinthe exposure.So the only absinthe that I had was actually absinth.First came la Fee,then Trul absinth,then Zelena Muza,which is miserable.Now one of my friends ordered me some Lucid,which they say is decent.Licorice-y,anyway.Having not tried it yet,i have only to imagine.
Of the “absinths” Ive tried,I do still enjoy the Trul,which is made in the Czech republic.Up to now,I assume it is the closest to the La Fee Parisienne(of course,how close is la Fee Parisienne to actual absinthe? I dont know. Send me a case free,and ill consider it. Yeah right!)

I have tried the Lucid and it was not to my liking. I am a HUGE fan of Ted Breaux and was hoping the Lucid would be a little closer to Jade than it is. So far the best legal US absinthe has been the St. George